Soldier Limit on Battlezone

[p0izon]

What's with the 3 soldier limit on BZ?

3 Soldiers, but 4 snipers?

[Saleen219]

Ya noticed that yesterday, four snipers.

Wasnt me.

[Bishop]

I mentioned this to Master the other day...there are dumb limits on all classes (2 medic and 2 solly were the worst).  I got the impression he wasn't the one who set them.  The cvars that need changing are

cr_solly 0
cr_medic 0
cr_scout 0
etc...
(zero is no limit)

[Master]

these are the limits I would place on the server (keeping in mind theres 12-32 players on the server, with an average of about 26 players)

cr_scout 0
cr_sniper 4
cr_soldier 0
cr_demoman 2
cr_medic 0
cr_hwguy 2
cr_pyro 0
cr_spy
cr_engineer 4


This is only one form of balancing the game though, removing NeoTF would probably make the game a lot more balanced! 

[Bishop]

Yes the class balance Master suggesed would be much better.

Another problem discovered today...someone removed some features from ntf further goofing the balance.  The scout sg shadowring was disabled. NTF needs to be all or none (i prefer none for whatever little it is worth).  I wonder what other settings were changed.

[Ballsack]

Could I suggest trying the BZ server without NTF for a period of time?  Maybe a week? 

[Saleen219]

no

no ntf, no mines for me

[Master]

Could I suggest trying the BZ server without NTF for a period of time?  Maybe a week? 

this sounds like a good idea, lets remove neotf for lets say... 3 years, sounds good?

[p0izon]

Could I suggest trying the BZ server without NTF for a period of time?  Maybe a week? 

I would actually like to see a trial period of the server without NTF too. If the activity doesn't die down, I'd say run with it.

[Master]

Could I suggest trying the BZ server without NTF for a period of time?  Maybe a week? 

I would actually like to see a trial period of the server without NTF too. If the activity doesn't die down, I'd say run with it.

of the 410 people who have voted on this poll on the frontpage, 64% say they want to keep NeoTF, if they can learn to live without it, id be more than happy to see this happen!

[[EVIL]CocoPuff]

these are the limits I would place on the server (keeping in mind theres 12-32 players on the server, with an average of about 26 players)

cr_scout 0
cr_sniper 4
cr_soldier 0
cr_demoman 2
cr_medic 0
cr_hwguy 2
cr_pyro 0
cr_spy
cr_engineer 4


This is only one form of balancing the game though, removing NeoTF would probably make the game a lot more balanced! 

That would be perfect... 

[Saleen219]

Im pretty sure i voted like 286 times to keep ntf

[Saleen219]

For the most part, the people who are completely against ntf dont go to bz for that reason. Or LG.

[pig]

Then why does the question/proposal keep coming up to remove NTF from BZ?

Those players can already go to another server....

It's really a catch-22 for a lot of people. While they might not like neotf, it is more fun to play with people than diddle around on an empty, non-neotf server.

Just a matter of picking the lesser poison really.

[Master]

I still say convert one of the other servers to 'Vanilla' TFC, running the same map cycle as BZ.

Don't change BZ from what it has been.

Then see where the player base is.

this is what the 'spillway' server was, unfortunately its severely broken and unplayable, so I shut it down, I don't know when I will have time to go through and fix it so everything is working again.