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I want a Tournament!

Started by Gimpy, August 19, 2019, 05:49:51 PM

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Gimpy

Quote from: pizzahut on August 24, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
Quote from: Gimpy on August 24, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
1. 2v2 2fort - OvD, 15 mins per side. Most caps win. Double elimination tournament.

Third round, sudden death, first cap wins.
Since this is elimination, I guess that if scores are equal, the opponents would have to play another two rounds.

In worst case, if both teams are great at defence, but are bad at offence, it could be 0-0 forever at which point I guess they could ask for a coin toss.

[EVIL]CocoPuff


Nuggs

For the 2v2 are we picking names randomly for teams?

Gimpy

Nope. Once the server is ready to rock, I'll create a new topic (here, Drippys, and Steam Discussions) announcing the tournament. I'll give two options... Put your name in a hat, OR register your own team!

Swede

Please try to make as even teams as possible or 2 divisions.
Guts can have his own :laugh:.

Nuggs

Sweet, I got a few ringers I can probably drag out of the woodwork for this.

Headwind

Looking forward to this.

Is there any interest, in doing something monthly/bi-weekly?  I'd be up for regular O vs D with a different map each month/week.  If I could plan around something, I'm more likely to be available.

Now that my daughter is older (9 months), I don't have as much time to play TFC, but I still stalk boards and was happy to see this post.

Gimpy

We're almost ready to start. Once I get the server up and running how I want it (I'll be looking for help mostly from Master and pizzahut for this).

pizzahut

#23
I guess most can be done via suitable cfg files.

- minutes / number of kills are cvars (mp_timelimit, mp_fraglimit)
- class restrictions are cvars (cr_scout etc)
- CTF needs prematch
- optionally FF for CTF, in this case TFC's autokick should be off.

Not sure about rcon. Maybe it would be better to use AMX Mod X instead. Change the default access levels (amx_default_access) a bit, so everyone can change the map and/or start a vote. Set amx_show_activity to 2 (public, with name).

Sudden death:
- tfc_respawndelay 1000 (16m; exceptions: class/team change, console command to suicide)
- Didn't see a cvar for cap limit. A plugin like Bishop's "TFC Nades for Flag Capture" could be modified to end the map on 1st cap (e.g. via mp_timelimit 0) or announce flag captures to console/chat (in case both teams cap at the same time).


Some old league configs I had lying around: https://rv.apg-clan.org/dlds/league_configs/

Gimpy

Pizzahut,

Server management is not in my skill list...

Next time under you online I'll throw some ideas at you and see what you think.

Do you have access to make changes to Master's test server?

pizzahut

#25
Well I was looking at the way old leagues were handled. Normally people would have their own clan server and they would have to take care that their servers are properly configured for the league. This was primarily a league config, not much else was needed or even wanted.

Wireplay offered their own league servers in addition, just in case the opponents didn't have one. But the public rcon password was a bad idea. https://web.archive.org/web/20140829054126/http://tfc.wireplay.co.uk/

The pickup servers are more advanced as they use a bot to organise matches. That's probably a bit overkill for the tournament.

I thought sudden death also meant perma death, but seems it's just about the score actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_death_(sport) In this case no messing with the respawn delay is needed. As for scoring, while nothing shows in the client console, I think it's logged though (if logging is turned on in the server cfg).

I have access, I guess I could upload the above league config files for example. Suitable map cyles are needed too, and MOTDs maybe. I guess for initial testing one or two maps each is enough. The map voting plugin might have to be disabled though.

Angi

Quote from: Swede on August 29, 2019, 08:33:27 AM
Please try to make as even teams as possible or 2 divisions.
Guts can have his own :laugh:.
<<<<--this^^ 2 divisions
I know it sounds stupid, but it really should go skillwise  :angel: 8) :)

My 2 cents
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pizzahut

#27
Quote from: pizzahut on August 29, 2019, 01:29:00 PM
Some old league configs I had lying around: https://rv.apg-clan.org/dlds/league_configs/
Added these to the test server, unedited.

Usage:
amx_cfg gtfl.cfg /  vitality5v5.cfg /  wptfcl_2.cfg

Default:
amx_cfg server.cfg

Gimpy

I don't even know what any of that shit means...

I'm looking for something that runs like BZ, with some differences:

No autobhop
No special nade bags
2fort to be the only map available (other than with amx_map)
15 min map rotation
1 min pre-match timer

Teams that don't have an admin present will have to wait until map change. Then 1 min pre-match, 15 mins OvD. Switch upon map change. Whatever team had more caps, wins. If they tie, third map rotation. First cap wins.

I'm not worried that this isn't like league play, or pick up matches... I'm trying to keep this simple and fun.

pizzahut

It doesn't have a lot of plugins running anyway.

Disabled from AMXX:
- admin teleport
- map voting
- auto bunnyhop
- glow

Server cfg:
- time limit + prematch as above
- ff on, autokick off (for team kills)
- foot steps on
- consistency off (it's an anti-cheat feature, but may be a hassle with people being unable to join)
- spectator chat on (so specs can talk to players)
- damage balancing off (to prevent team with lower score from dealing more damage)
- No passwords set (rcon / join).