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Title: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Guts on December 14, 2019, 09:08:40 PM
Called me a fag twice, while an active admin was present...who did nothing. I guess it's okay to disobey server rules as long as it's against me. Right Schuffler?

Short history here on evil but looks like hes used the word a few times. As well as other racial slurs.

https://stats.esclan.net/hlstats.php?mode=chathistory&player=100195402
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: schuffler on December 14, 2019, 09:21:09 PM
I was not active . That's why I was in spec I was busy doing other things I wasn't playing. So calm down.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Swede on December 15, 2019, 01:44:42 AM
Thx for pointing this player out Guts.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Angi on December 15, 2019, 07:52:06 AM
Problem solved!
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: GoatseLover on December 15, 2019, 12:30:28 PM
That's a lie - the reason why I (And another user, who seems to have been an admin) insulted him is because he was using speed hacks.

Moreover, such a ban does not warrant permanence, especially when the reason given of "Language" doesn't clearly indicate why.

If anything, he should be banned, and I should be unbanned.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Guts on December 15, 2019, 02:23:41 PM
Quote from: GoatseLover on December 15, 2019, 12:30:28 PM
That's a lie - the reason why I (And another user, who seems to have been an admin) insulted him is because he was using speed hacks.

Schuffler cries because he hates bhoppers.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: GoatseLover on December 15, 2019, 02:53:15 PM
He absolutely was via private server messages he sent; no one likes speed hackers.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Guts on December 15, 2019, 03:06:15 PM
That's interesting. Thank you for telling me.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: froob on December 15, 2019, 03:22:37 PM
Quote from: GoatseLover on December 15, 2019, 12:30:28 PM
That's a lie - the reason why I (And another user, who seems to have been an admin) insulted him is because he was using speed hacks.

Moreover, such a ban does not warrant permanence, especially when the reason given of "Language" doesn't clearly indicate why.

If anything, he should be banned, and I should be unbanned.

Wait wait wait. I'm having trouble reading this, you and schuffler think guts is speedhacking? Or is it just you?

I know schuff doesn't like Guts all that much, but I doubt he would accuse him of speedhacking.

Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Angi on December 15, 2019, 03:44:06 PM
Some should get used to/know about the server mechanism , before accusing ppl of cheating/haxxin/ or whatsoever .
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Guts on December 15, 2019, 04:26:28 PM
Quote from: SourceFroob on December 15, 2019, 03:22:37 PM
Quote from: GoatseLover on December 15, 2019, 12:30:28 PM
That's a lie - the reason why I (And another user, who seems to have been an admin) insulted him is because he was using speed hacks.

Moreover, such a ban does not warrant permanence, especially when the reason given of "Language" doesn't clearly indicate why.

If anything, he should be banned, and I should be unbanned.

Wait wait wait. I'm having trouble reading this, you and schuffler think guts is speedhacking? Or is it just you?

I know schuff doesn't like Guts all that much, but I doubt he would accuse him of speedhacking.

Recently schfuller likes to say that I'm BS or my speed is or whatever the fuck. People then take that as I'm some sort of cheat. Fits perfectly into his narrative. Supposedly he was also PM'n this guy that I cheat. He has been calling me a cheat and a hack for a while now.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: schuffler on December 15, 2019, 04:46:40 PM
some people just can't move on.  blame me for not doing anything and I'm not even there. The guy calls you out blame me for that too.  There are others with your speed or more no issues. So again blame me. I don't get it don't even chat with you so I don't get blamed. You run the edge that's what happens people will always point at you. Stop blaming me.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Guts on December 15, 2019, 05:46:27 PM
Edge of what? You use these pseudo ambiguous lines like; speed is bs or run the edge. He's calling me out cause he knows your an admin and you say shit like that. There's no issues with other people because you don't do this to other people. How about just be an admin and leave your bias outside the server?

Admins like Harley always try and explain that people like me and others do not cheat and defuse the situation. I've seen her do this countless times. That's a good admin. So I'll stop when you start being an unbiased and capable admin.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: pizzahut on December 15, 2019, 08:56:12 PM
From stats chat log, reverse order.

(Jose=schuffler, Zeus=Guts, Cock=GoatseLover)
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Guts on December 15, 2019, 11:13:00 PM
Seems obvious he was PM'n this guy that I cheat by how this guy was responding. He knows chat logs are recorded. Just a way to circumvent.  :brow:
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Angi on December 16, 2019, 04:42:47 AM
Quote from: Guts on December 15, 2019, 05:46:27 PM
Edge of what? You use these pseudo ambiguous lines like; speed is bs or run the edge. He's calling me out cause he knows your an admin and you say shit like that. There's no issues with other people because you don't do this to other people. How about just be an admin and leave your bias outside the server?

Admins like Harley always try and explain that people like me and others do not cheat and defuse the situation. I've seen her do this countless times. That's a good admin. So I'll stop when you start being an unbiased and capable admin.

I try! Cuz been there, had that  :P :D Nevertheless, I, from my side , didnt ban cuz he called u a cheat! I banned cuz of his language!! I dont like it, dont need it.
If he apoligises towards you, i will reconsider it, takin the perm off! ( also if HC gives the ok) .
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Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Mocay on December 16, 2019, 02:27:15 PM
I like turtles.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Guts on December 16, 2019, 06:35:44 PM
yeah right buddy
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Gimpy on December 17, 2019, 10:39:44 AM
Do the server side files record the PMs?

I also think it looks clear than an undercover admin ignored responsibilities (language use) and was private messaging another player complaining of hacking.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Guts on December 17, 2019, 11:12:38 AM
Not that I am aware of Gimpy.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: pizzahut on December 17, 2019, 04:22:48 PM
Quote from: Gimpy on December 17, 2019, 10:39:44 AM
Do the server side files record the PMs?
Seems the PMs got logged. Time is a bit off as the logs use GMT / UTC. Not sure if it's ok to post them, but it's basically what's been said in public chat already.

The problem is "runs to fast" has been misinterpreted as cheating, but what he meant was that bunny hopping unbalances the game.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: froob on December 17, 2019, 08:09:12 PM
Quote from: pizzahut on December 17, 2019, 04:22:48 PMNot sure if it's ok to post them,

I don't see why not. We're balls deep in this already. Better this gets resolved quickly.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: schuffler on December 18, 2019, 01:34:52 PM
 admin ignored responsibilities (language use)
Gimpy  again I was not in the game I was in spec and not watching what was going on, I was not even near my computer, So I did not ignore what was said.

also there seems to be a problem of seeing messages. If you never join a game and then go spec you do not see any messages. I asked about that in another form.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Gimpy on December 18, 2019, 02:07:15 PM
You were present when Guts was called a fag. And Guts even pointed it that you did nothing about it.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: schuffler on December 18, 2019, 03:27:48 PM
I was in spec I was not on my computer.  I never saw it. I was eating at the time came back later and left. There are people in spec all day long they are not always watching the things going on.

And again if you join a server and go to spec you do not see the messages HQ even explained it that there is a problem with that you need to join as a player then go into spec to see messages.  It's in one of the forums.

And as I am typing this I'm in spec on BZ. So what is going on there now I have no idea, so how would it be my fault if something happened

Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: schuffler on December 18, 2019, 03:32:11 PM
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GM shelly! It`s a bug! You have to join a team first, and then go back into spec! With that done, you can read the chat!

So even if I was sitting right there I joined and went into spec not on a team and I left my computer.

Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Gimpy on December 18, 2019, 07:09:03 PM
Yes, this has been an issue for years. You cannot join and immediately go into spec. Join a team, then switch.

I'm guessing that it must just be untimely bad luck that Guts was called a fag twice in the 30 minutes you were AFK in spec.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Guts on December 18, 2019, 07:43:05 PM
He was on a team and then went to spec. Not sure if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: schuffler on December 18, 2019, 08:06:09 PM
This is not about what the guy called him while I was away. It's about the mistake when I thought Guts was the guy from Singapore, Now this is being used to get back at me. That's why he makes a big deal of this. Like he said I was on a team then went spec and left.  When I did come back to the games the map had changed not even sure if anyone was still there and I left.   Not sure how long I was gone  but  I don't miss to many dinners.
One more thing a lot of times I go to other servers if I see Guts is on BZ just too avoid issues.  Seen he was on Drippy's too, didn't join there either. So I do try not to upset his game play I move on .
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: DomiAvenger on December 19, 2019, 12:03:33 AM
this doesnt add up, and i feel i need to voice my opinion on this issue in a different thread. but its 1am and im tired as shit lol
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Angi on December 19, 2019, 08:07:46 AM
Quote from: pizzahut on December 17, 2019, 04:22:48 PM
Seems the PMs got logged. Time is a bit off as the logs use GMT / UTC. Not sure if it's ok to post them, but it's basically what's been said in public chat already.

The problem is "runs to fast" has been misinterpreted as cheating, but what he meant was that bunny hopping unbalances the game.

My 2 cents to this, and dont u dare say im biased!
PRIV message can also be termed as in : TEAM chat (speculating here, cuz i wasnt there).THIS bs needs to stop.Writtin words always get shit started, on server as also in "priv" messages/ chats, to much room for speculations / self interpertations/assumtions, non vurbal /facial whatsoever! Thats why i also use a mic!( YOU /WHOever can "hear" HOW i mean shit )!!!

/me doves out
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Angi on December 19, 2019, 08:14:04 AM
Quote from: Gimpy on December 18, 2019, 07:09:03 PM
Yes, this has been an issue for years. You cannot join and immediately go into spec. Join a team, then switch.

I'm guessing that it must just be untimely bad luck that Guts was called a fag twice in the 30 minutes you were AFK in spec.

Sorry Gimpy ,(mea culpa) BUT , when my doorbell/ RL/ phone/ whatsoever rings/knocks/calls...I JUMP! I can care less, at that moment, what is going on a server.IF , i have the time/ take the time, i say it on server , eventho, i think our players give 5 fucks ! I am "present" on the server when i am there.I think this goes also for all of us.
p.s.:I am not salty/mad/ or anything! Just to make sure THAT no 1 missunderstands here! Calm as fuck :P <3
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: Angi on December 19, 2019, 09:01:01 AM
Also , in my case : i run lots of times to the bathroom, cuz of my coffee abuse ;) :P
AND which i complain also over mic, been send into/onto spec in such short time,those who are there KNOW that i bitch about it too! VURBALY! I can`t take a p**** in that short time .I dont sit on a bucket!  :no:  :laugh:
Title: Re: STEAM_0:1:19947133
Post by: pizzahut on December 19, 2019, 01:05:06 PM
Quote from: Harley on December 19, 2019, 08:07:46 AMPRIV message can also be termed as in : TEAM chat (speculating here, cuz i wasnt there)
This was about actual PMs, using the amx_psay command.