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Soldier's Barracks => Clan Lounge => Topic started by: Gimpy on August 19, 2019, 05:49:51 PM

Title: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 19, 2019, 05:49:51 PM
So I feel like very little has happened in the world of TFC the past year, and I want to change that.

I'm going to run another tournament. A few years ago, I ran a sniper tournament, and tried to do a mulch tournament, but it never got off the ground.

There are three big changes with this tournament, that I'm hoping will make this much bigger.

1. Entry will be open to EVERYONE, vice just EVIL members
2. The type of tournament will be picked by YOU!
3. Advertising! I will advertise here, the Steam Discussions, possibly on the server (Master? Is it possible / simple to make ESN announce stuff?), and I'm going to see if I can advertise on Drippy's Forums.

So, with that said, I'm looking for what kind of tournament you would like?
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Nuggs on August 20, 2019, 08:57:25 AM
2v2 would be ideal but tough getting four ppl on the same page for matches

1v1 solider ladder might make most sense
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 20, 2019, 09:21:10 AM
Matches are scheduled by the players.

You'd be given a week to figure it out... after a week, coin toss.
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Harley on August 21, 2019, 11:26:48 AM
YES! nice :) Maybe we /you should also consider ,of how many ppl have intresst,
going up from 2vs2 to whatever makes sense (4vs4 ect.p.p) cuz i suck on 2vs2 ..lol..i am not good in defending :/ This is really nice :)  :yay!: :yes:
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 21, 2019, 11:37:12 AM
Well so far no one gives a single shit.

So...
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Swede on August 22, 2019, 01:02:47 AM
Voted.
My timediff and work will make it hard to participate.  ;)
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Harley on August 22, 2019, 07:29:33 AM
 also Voted before i made my comment
My timediff and work will also make it hard to participate, but we will see
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Cookie | LiTE on August 22, 2019, 10:12:43 AM
This could be interesting, however it appears i can't vote on the poll?
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 22, 2019, 10:35:47 AM
What's your vote
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Cookie | LiTE on August 22, 2019, 10:40:46 AM
Mulch
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: TinMan on August 23, 2019, 08:03:47 AM
So this is Limited to Evil Clan members only ???
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 23, 2019, 08:15:57 AM
1. Entry will be open to EVERYONE, vice just EVIL members

Nope. Everyone!!
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 24, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
With all of the interest around, I've decided that I'm going to try and run THREE tournaments.

1. 2v2 2fort - OvD, 15 mins per side. Most caps win. Double elimination tournament.
2. Mulch_dm - First to 10 kills wins. Double elimination tournament.
3. Sniper - First to 10 kills wins. Double elimination tournament.

My plan is to have the tournaments run in that order, with the first one (2v2) starting as soon as a server is built to manage it. As stated in my first post, registration will be open to ANYONE WHO WANTS TO PLAY.

I will not schedule any matches. The vision I have is that teams will be told what team they are playing against. The two teams will have one full week to figure out when they can play their match. If an entire week goes by and they cannot play, it will probably just be a coin flip to see who moves on, and who does not. Of course, this will be a case by case basis.

I will also be cross-posting tournament registration, updates, etc. here, d2f forums, and Steam Discussions. That way everyone should be able to see everything!

Registration info for the 2v2 tournament will be coming once the server is set up.
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: pizzahut on August 24, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
1. 2v2 2fort - OvD, 15 mins per side. Most caps win. Double elimination tournament.
Since this is elimination, I guess that if scores are equal, the opponents would have to play another two rounds.

In worst case, if both teams are great at defence, but are bad at offence, it could be 0-0 forever at which point I guess they could ask for a coin toss.
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Harley on August 24, 2019, 02:57:41 PM
As already mentioned, the teams, sorry for pointing it out again :P , should also be coin wise in some matter!
Just thinkin of the constilation Gimpy/Guts teamin up against...errr...yeah right..thats rape at first shot :P  lol_face :wideeyed: :o :no: :wideeyed2:
But we will see^^
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 24, 2019, 09:55:25 PM
1. 2v2 2fort - OvD, 15 mins per side. Most caps win. Double elimination tournament.

Third round, sudden death, first cap wins.
Since this is elimination, I guess that if scores are equal, the opponents would have to play another two rounds.

In worst case, if both teams are great at defence, but are bad at offence, it could be 0-0 forever at which point I guess they could ask for a coin toss.
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: [EVIL]CocoPuff on August 25, 2019, 01:40:05 PM
Plzzzz count me in.
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Nuggs on August 28, 2019, 08:31:50 AM
For the 2v2 are we picking names randomly for teams?
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 28, 2019, 11:21:01 AM
Nope. Once the server is ready to rock, I'll create a new topic (here, Drippys, and Steam Discussions) announcing the tournament. I'll give two options... Put your name in a hat, OR register your own team!
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Swede on August 29, 2019, 08:33:27 AM
Please try to make as even teams as possible or 2 divisions.
Guts can have his own :laugh:.
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Nuggs on August 29, 2019, 08:35:16 AM
Sweet, I got a few ringers I can probably drag out of the woodwork for this.
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Headwind on August 29, 2019, 08:43:16 AM
Looking forward to this.

Is there any interest, in doing something monthly/bi-weekly?  I'd be up for regular O vs D with a different map each month/week.  If I could plan around something, I'm more likely to be available.

Now that my daughter is older (9 months), I don't have as much time to play TFC, but I still stalk boards and was happy to see this post.
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 29, 2019, 10:17:23 AM
We're almost ready to start. Once I get the server up and running how I want it (I'll be looking for help mostly from Master and pizzahut for this).
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: pizzahut on August 29, 2019, 01:29:00 PM
I guess most can be done via suitable cfg files.

- minutes / number of kills are cvars (mp_timelimit, mp_fraglimit)
- class restrictions are cvars (cr_scout etc)
- CTF needs prematch
- optionally FF for CTF, in this case TFC's autokick should be off.

Not sure about rcon. Maybe it would be better to use AMX Mod X instead. Change the default access levels (amx_default_access) a bit, so everyone can change the map and/or start a vote. Set amx_show_activity to 2 (public, with name).

Sudden death:
- tfc_respawndelay 1000 (16m; exceptions: class/team change, console command to suicide)
- Didn't see a cvar for cap limit. A plugin like Bishop's "TFC Nades for Flag Capture" could be modified to end the map on 1st cap (e.g. via mp_timelimit 0) or announce flag captures to console/chat (in case both teams cap at the same time).


Some old league configs I had lying around: https://rv.apg-clan.org/dlds/league_configs/ (https://rv.apg-clan.org/dlds/league_configs/)
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 29, 2019, 05:05:50 PM
Pizzahut,

Server management is not in my skill list...

Next time under you online I'll throw some ideas at you and see what you think.

Do you have access to make changes to Master's test server?
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: pizzahut on August 29, 2019, 07:03:52 PM
Well I was looking at the way old leagues were handled. Normally people would have their own clan server and they would have to take care that their servers are properly configured for the league. This was primarily a league config, not much else was needed or even wanted.

Wireplay offered their own league servers in addition, just in case the opponents didn't have one. But the public rcon password was a bad idea. https://web.archive.org/web/20140829054126/http://tfc.wireplay.co.uk/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20140829054126/http://tfc.wireplay.co.uk/)

The pickup servers are more advanced as they use a bot to organise matches. That's probably a bit overkill for the tournament.

I thought sudden death also meant perma death, but seems it's just about the score actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_death_(sport) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_death_(sport)) In this case no messing with the respawn delay is needed. As for scoring, while nothing shows in the client console, I think it's logged though (if logging is turned on in the server cfg).

I have access, I guess I could upload the above league config files for example. Suitable map cyles are needed too, and MOTDs maybe. I guess for initial testing one or two maps each is enough. The map voting plugin might have to be disabled though.
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Harley on August 30, 2019, 07:04:22 AM
Please try to make as even teams as possible or 2 divisions.
Guts can have his own :laugh:.
    <<<<--this^^ 2 divisions
I know it sounds stupid, but it really should go skillwise  :angel: 8) :)

My 2 cents
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: pizzahut on August 30, 2019, 11:26:10 AM
Some old league configs I had lying around: https://rv.apg-clan.org/dlds/league_configs/ (https://rv.apg-clan.org/dlds/league_configs/)
Added these to the test server, unedited.

Usage:
amx_cfg gtfl.cfg /  vitality5v5.cfg /  wptfcl_2.cfg

Default:
amx_cfg server.cfg
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 30, 2019, 03:47:42 PM
I don't even know what any of that shit means...

I'm looking for something that runs like BZ, with some differences:

No autobhop
No special nade bags
2fort to be the only map available (other than with amx_map)
15 min map rotation
1 min pre-match timer

Teams that don't have an admin present will have to wait until map change. Then 1 min pre-match, 15 mins OvD. Switch upon map change. Whatever team had more caps, wins. If they tie, third map rotation. First cap wins.

I'm not worried that this isn't like league play, or pick up matches... I'm trying to keep this simple and fun.
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: pizzahut on August 31, 2019, 03:52:26 AM
It doesn't have a lot of plugins running anyway.

Disabled from AMXX:
- admin teleport
- map voting
- auto bunnyhop
- glow

Server cfg:
- time limit + prematch as above
- ff on, autokick off (for team kills)
- foot steps on
- consistency off (it's an anti-cheat feature, but may be a hassle with people being unable to join)
- spectator chat on (so specs can talk to players)
- damage balancing off (to prevent team with lower score from dealing more damage)
- No passwords set (rcon / join).
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 31, 2019, 05:23:10 AM
Thanks pizzahut. Those are all things I want, but didn't know I wanted.

Can you please set a password? Really don't want random people joining mid-match and ruining it.

"tournament" would be perfect.

Also, BZ has voice chat open. Can you make it so voice is team only?
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: pizzahut on August 31, 2019, 06:23:51 AM
Seems the test server had mostly default settings, so it already was team only (sv_alltalk 0). Passwords set. Logging enabled (via autoexec.cfg to avoid split logs).
Title: Re: I want a Tournament!
Post by: Gimpy on August 31, 2019, 07:22:50 AM
Last thing then... please change the name of the server to -[EVIL]- 2v2 Tournament Server.

Registration will be open later today I hope!!!!

Thank you pizzahut for all of your help with this.