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Started by TROLLTZU, October 26, 2023, 07:29:22 PM

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TROLLTZU

Perhaps sometime in the previous month I joined the server with a third account and y0sh must have caught it late. But, recently I created a new steam account, and this one automatically receives a "ban-message" from y0sh. Is this what I think it is? Here is the logical proposition: if x, then y; if the admin is banning the entire network, then a sorry standard, because of the room for uncertainty of banning accounts that are not mine.

So I will seize the occasion and request any info on my hack-accusation. And just some of my reasoning is that one of my accounts got banned from 'TFC 1999,' shortly after someone spit out a complaint about my gameplay. What I explained to everyone there is the 'auto-aim' (in game) feature which, happened to be turned off in fact. Long story short, wishy-washy-y0shy and any other admins who concur may not be the only ones. Idk, man...
"The supreme art of war is to fight without subduing your enemy" - Troll-Tzu

"The greatest battle is that which requires no victory" - Troll-Tzu

Bishop

Cheaters are not welcome here. Find another server.

pizzahut

#2
Quote from: TROLLTZU on October 26, 2023, 07:29:22 PMif the admin is banning the entire network, then a sorry standard, because of the room for uncertainty of banning accounts that are not mine.
Suppose it's a case of one cheater spoiling the fun for everyone else. From the admins' perspective, they think that a cheater keeps circumventing previous bans by making new Steam accounts. IMHO it's understandable that eventually, IP bans are handed out.


TROLLTZU

Quote from: Bishop on October 27, 2023, 03:02:07 AMCheaters are not welcome here. Find another server.

Then I'm aware of the fact that I'm "welcome here" even if you are not aware of such.
"The supreme art of war is to fight without subduing your enemy" - Troll-Tzu

"The greatest battle is that which requires no victory" - Troll-Tzu

TROLLTZU

#4
Try hard not to forget how "hack bans" have been removed on BZ. First a hacker, then not a hacker according to "authoritative ruling." Since the propensity to get the wrong conclusion coherently and rightfully exists as of now in the worldviews of the server adminship, then it is not clear that I'm not welcome here. But this is more about your statement.

Lastly, it is my fault that I used two sniper accounts to overthrow the top 5 / top 10 sniper stats.
"The supreme art of war is to fight without subduing your enemy" - Troll-Tzu

"The greatest battle is that which requires no victory" - Troll-Tzu

TROLLTZU

#5
lmao...something strange happened to the thread

@pizzahut

Okay, thanks for helping. On the other hand, this kind of thing is definitely not understandable. Even if something more statistically accurate can be designed, such as alias filters in addition to IP and network, and maybe I'm not entirely aware of how it is implemented.  Nonetheless, the same kind of room-for-error exists, even if the methodology turns out to be more statistically sound.

But, I'll go ahead and let it go for now, since my standards of old-world thought process do not allow for the sound validation of a "ban evader." Even a hacker, where these standards are concerned. But, this worldview doesn't mean I hack.

It does mean, however, that the admin must be prepared to throw anybody under the bus just to make sure hackers are banned from the server. It's something like utilitarian ethics. You're choosing to risk getting it wrong just to make sure you get it right elsewhere. And somebody who didn't hack gets a ban...
"The supreme art of war is to fight without subduing your enemy" - Troll-Tzu

"The greatest battle is that which requires no victory" - Troll-Tzu

pizzahut

#6
Quote from: TROLLTZU on October 27, 2023, 01:12:55 PMlmao...something strange happened to the thread
Seems you can edit my posts. I've reported the bug.

Edit: For clarification, only the 1st paragraph is by me.

TROLLTZU

#7
We'll let y0sh render his conclusions on the matter. Does troll-tzu know how to hack the thread, too?
"The supreme art of war is to fight without subduing your enemy" - Troll-Tzu

"The greatest battle is that which requires no victory" - Troll-Tzu

pizzahut

#8
Do you see a "Quick Edit" button at posts made by me or Bishop, or do you have the "Modify" option under "More..." for these posts?


Edited by Troll-Tzu: this is a test run, where I'm able to modify Pizzahut's account.

TROLLTZU

Yeah I see all of those. Should it matter at all?
"The supreme art of war is to fight without subduing your enemy" - Troll-Tzu

"The greatest battle is that which requires no victory" - Troll-Tzu

TROLLTZU

Okay. I can see your account edited from my standpoint. Idk why it's like that, but try and report it again, although the feature may have been an accidental account-setting from the administrator...
"The supreme art of war is to fight without subduing your enemy" - Troll-Tzu

"The greatest battle is that which requires no victory" - Troll-Tzu