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Title: New PC Build
Post by: Venomous Fangs on August 20, 2021, 11:19:45 PM
Hey Evils

At 9 years old my PC is getting old, albeit still a good box. Looking at building a replacement, here is the specs of my new box to be built. Any ideas / comments for improvements?  :-\

Intel Core i7 11700K (Base: 3.60GHz,
Turbo :4.60GHz / 16MB / LGA1200 / 8 Core /
16 Thread / Xe 32 EU / 125W / Rocket Lake)

Gigabyte Z590 UD AC MB, Z590, 4x DDR4, 2x
PCI-E 4.0 x16, 5x SATA3, 3x M.2, 9x USB
3.2, DisplayPort 1.2, ATX, 2.5GbE LAN, WIFI
AC, BT 5.1, M.2 Thermal Guard

Corsair Hydro Series H115i 280mm RGB
PLATINUM  Liquid CPU Cooler. 5 Years
Warranty

HyperX Fury RGB 32GB (2x16GB) PC4-25600
(3200MHz) DDR4, CL16, 16-20-20, 1.35v,
XMP, Dual Channel Kit

Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB, 64L 3-bit MLC
V-NAND, M.2 (2280), NVMe, R/W(Max)
3,500MB/s/3,300MB/s, 600K/550K IOPS,
600TBW, 5 Years Warranty

Samsung SSD 870 QVO - 1TB, Samsung
V-NAND, 2.5", 7mm, SATA III 6GB/s,
R/W(Max) 560MB/s/530MB/s, 98K/88K IOPS,
360TBW, 3 Years Warranty

ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 Ti TUF Gaming V2
OC 8GB Video Card - 8GB GDDR6 256-Bit,
CUDA Cores 6144, 1815 MHz (OC Mode), PCI
Express 4.0, 1x 8-Pin, Recommended PSU
750W, 2.7 Slot, 2x HDMI 2.1, 3x DisplayPort
1.4a, HDCP Support 2.3, OpenGL 4.6, 3
Years Limited Warranty

Fractal Design Define 7 Black E-ATX Case, UNIT 0.00
Dark Tempered Glass Window, No PSU, 1x
USB 3.1 Gen2 (Type-C), 2x USB 3.0, 2x USB
2.0, 6x 2.5"/3.5" Universal HDD Trays + 2x
SSD bracket + 1 multi-bracket, 3x 140mm
Fan pre-installed

Cheers

EVGA PSU (Full-Modular), 850W, 80+ Gold UNIT 1.00
92%, SuperNOVA GA, 135mm Fan, Multiple
Rail, 10 Year Warranty


Microsoft Windows 10 Home 32-BIT/64-BIT 
USB Flash Drive, 
Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Bishop on August 21, 2021, 12:47:03 AM
Sweet...video cards have been hard to find lately and the 3070Ti is nice.

The processors seems a little weak compared to other selections - depending on what you run, you may bottleneck your GPU.  I suggest you consider an AMD processor over Intel...much better price for same level of performance...and AMD has been innovating like crazy while Intel keeps doing the same old thing - most of the uTube PC builders hate on Intel pretty hard.  You can get higher core/threads with AMD which will help it better in long run as games/apps begin to take better advantage.  (A few years ago I built my pc with an AMD Ryzen 9 3900X and RTX2080).  If you do switch to AMD, remember update the motherboard to match.
Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Bishop on August 21, 2021, 12:51:18 AM
Thinking about PC building reminded me of this build video that the Verge put several years ago that was just beyond awful...you'd think it was a joke but it wasn't.  There were a ton of followup videos trashing it ...this one in particular I found hilarious, so I'll share.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vmQOO4WLI4

Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: pizzahut on August 21, 2021, 07:22:16 AM
As Bishop said, AMD is probably better value in this price range. I'd suggest the Ryzen 5800X, which is an 8C/16T CPU without integrated graphics. They also have a model with integrated graphics (Ryzen 5700G), but it's a bit slower due to less L3 cache.

Btw right now even a six-core CPU is enough, not sure if this will change dramatically any time soon. So the Ryzen 5600X might also be worth considering.

SSD: I'd avoid QLC (Samsung  QVO). For most things, admittedly there won't be a difference. But if you want to copy a huge amount of data, TLC (*) is a lot better.

(*) "3-bit MLC" - but MLC is normally referring to 2-bit cells. So it's a bit misleading to put MLC in the name / description of an SSD with TLC memory.
Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Master on August 21, 2021, 07:55:40 AM
www.logicalincrements.com

I usually just ask the experts..
Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: pizzahut on August 21, 2021, 08:49:02 AM
The performance difference between an RTX 3070 and an RTX 3070 Ti seems to be very low. So if you can find a much cheaper 3070, I'd go for this.
Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Venomous Fangs on August 21, 2021, 07:33:08 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys, will look i to it. The main issue at the moment is availability as some components are very hard to get.

Cheers
Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: pizzahut on August 22, 2021, 04:42:18 PM
If you plan to keep your next PC a long time, too, it may be worth waiting for a DDR5 capable platform. Intel is starting this year (rumoured is October 27), and AMD next year.
Title: New PC Build - Revised
Post by: Venomous Fangs on August 22, 2021, 07:06:52 PM

I have tweaked the new PC build to incorporate some sound advice from you guys. The only thing I won't be doing is waiting for the DDRS capable platforms to be released, as under the current lead times this could be a long time waiting.

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 8-Core/16 Threads,
Max Freq 4.7GHz, 36MB Cache Socket AM4
105W, Without cooler
100-100000063WOF(5800X)

Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO WIFI Ryzen AM4
ATX Motherboard 4xDDR4 4xPCIe4.0 2xM.2
RAID GbE LAN WIFI BT CrossFire SLI 6xSATA
2xUSB-C 9xUSB3.2
GA-X570-AORUS-PRO-WIFI

Corsair Hydro Series H115i 280mm RGB
PLATINUM Liquid CPU Cooler. 5 Years
Warranty CW-9060038-WW

G.Skill DDR4-3600 32GB (4 x 8GB) Quad
Channel Ripjaws V Classic Black
GS-F4-3600C18Q-32GVK

Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB, 64L 3-bit MLC
V-NAND, M.2 (2280), NVMe, R/W(Max)
3,500MB/s/3,300MB/s, 620K/550K IOPS,
1,200TBW, 5 Years Warranty MZ-V7S2T0BW

ASUS GeForce RTX 3070 Ti TUF Gaming V2
OC 8GB Video Card - 8GB GDDR6 256-Bit,
CUDA Cores 6144, 1815 MHz (OC Mode), PCI
Express 4.0, 1x 8-Pin, Recommended PSU
750W, 2.7 Slot, 2x HDMI 2.1, 3x DisplayPort
1.4a, HDCP Support 2.3, OpenGL 4.6, 3
Years Limited Warranty -
TUF-RTX3070TI-08G-V2

Corsair 5000D Black Mid-Tower ATX Case,
Tempered Glass Side Panel, No PSU, 2x USB
3.0, 1x USB-C 3.1, HD Audio, Vertical PCIe
Slots, PWM Repeater CC-9011208-WW

EVGA PSU (Full-Modular), 850W, 80+ Gold
92%, SuperNOVA GA, 135mm Fan, Multiple
Rail, 10 Year Warranty 220-GA-0850-X4

Microsoft Windows 10 Home 32-BIT/64-BIT
USB Flash Drive,

Thanks again! :-)
Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: pizzahut on August 22, 2021, 07:40:13 PM
Looks like only Threadripper supports four or even eight channels when accessing the memory. This means a quad channel kit will work fine, but not faster than a dual channel kit.
Title: Re: New PC Build
Post by: Bishop on August 22, 2021, 09:01:23 PM
You probably don't need 32GB of memory - 16GB should be plenty - that could be a little extra $$ for more CPU or GPU.